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((I just realized Ariel did the "paladin leaves the room so the rest of the party can torture the captive mook" thing, and I'm okay with that))
@Tayatranscendent @ajanionthespot

(while waiting to change trains in the awkward :black: :white: place) "So Tebasha. What exactly did you do to Sheriff Grant? How did you make him believe in Lotusseed?"

((also what did Firiel say when I asked if she could hear the tip line?))

@DialMforMara @ajanionthespot ((there was no torture involved, but similar case. Tebasha actually thought she was doing him a mercy compared to what the angry earth was about to do))

“I don’t think the old sheriff believed in anything at all but the enjoyment he got from watching others suffer. That sheriff is no more. He was punished for his self admitted crimes and will never hurt anyone again. The new sheriff is a piece of my own magic, permanently invested in making Onumbrica better.”

@DialMforMara @ajanionthespot “I give every living foe a chance to surrender, a chance to learn and better themselves. I saw the best and worst of people when the Mirrans fought to survive the Phyrexian invasion. Life is precious and needs to be protected, especially from those with power who prey on the weak. Then there are people like Sheriff Grant. Even when given the opportunity to repent and make amends, he continued to brag about his heartlessness.”

@DialMforMara @ajanionthespot “He had the soul of a Phyrexian. Such people are no different from the glistening oil that will spread and consume civilization if left unchecked. I know I did the right thing in this case, he told us exactly who he was. That didn’t make it easy though and it is yet more weight I will carry with me. I hear the dead of Mirrodin constantly. When I close my eyes I see Phyrexian monstrosities tearing apart my pride. I will never tolerate such tyranny.”

@Tayatranscendent @DialMforMara @ajanionthespot Venqwyn swallows, but nods. "We gave him a chance. We gave him every chance. He made it very clear what would happen if... what he would do if..." She trails off, looking away.

@SliverQueen @Tayatranscendent @DialMforMara @Jmaurer

About the tip line, Firiel says "Would you have me stop my ears to even the prayers that do not ask me to answer?"

Which PROBABLY means she isn't willing to stop it.

@DialMforMara @SliverQueen @Tayatranscendent @Jmaurer

((Oh yeah, she'll tell you when the network is talking about you: as an omniscient knowledge deity, she has no problem with mass surveillance, just don't ask her to undermine net neutrality.))

@Tayatranscendent @DialMforMara @ajanionthespot ((Tarjuk interjects)) The temur do not kill without purpose. To eat and to protect ourselves. You might think me callous, but letting a known enemy walk away only allows them to come back stronger, like the sherif, and reveal a weakness in ourselves. You might think me a monster but know I will not tolerate any my clan being harmed.

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@Tayatranscendent @ajanionthespot
"I mean.... Yeah, I guess we've done justice here. No one else was going to do it, and when you find the rotten apple you gotta throw it in the compost.

"At least something nice might grow out of that compost, with this new sheriff on our side. I just... I'm not ready to be justice. That was always someone more important's job."

@Jmaurer @Tayatranscendent @ajanionthespot *shakes head* “This wasn’t supposed to be a metaphysical question. If we’re the tribunal now, I’ll be able to step up once I’ve had a chance to process all this.

“What I’m more interested in is, what, physically, did you do to Sheriff Grant? I don’t know of any magic that can change someone’s personality so completely. Like maybe the Dimir can do that, but none of us strike me as particularly Dimir.”

@DialMforMara @Tayatranscendent @ajanionthespot @SliverQueen l would not call what we do justice. We are vigilantes at best. When things change and the onumbricans have adjusted what we have done might be considered just. But now we are actively fighting against this plane's for of justice. We are not much different from Lotusseed, outsiders imposing ourselves and our values to a new place. We just have each other to keep us in check and the hope that what we do is right.

@Jmaurer @Tayatranscendent @ajanionthespot @SliverQueen “I wouldn’t call what this plane has justice. But you’re right about us keeping each other in check. We can’t make this about personal vengeance.” *glances at Venqwyn* “Regardless of how much Lotusseed pisses me off, it has to be about this world and its people.”

((Does Seth have an opinion?))

@DialMforMara @Jmaurer @Tayatranscendent @SliverQueen

"I don't really know if you or me or anybody can... BE justice. I guess justice is one of the things I thought might show up when I set out the beacon, but really I just wanted someone who'd change things. Maybe doin that'll be justice, maybe it won't, but SOMETHIN'S gotta break this world outa the rut it's in." Seth ruffles his feathers as if the words he's looking for are hidden between them.

@DialMforMara @Jmaurer @Tayatranscendent @SliverQueen

"It's like... when yer rising up through the clouds, and you break out the top, all suddenly. Maybe it's cold and too bright and the wind stings, but what matters is you're outa the cloud and you can see again! Or... or... like the end of a late summer drought: the winds gonna maybe knock down your fences and rip shingles off yer roof, but without the rain it's bringing fences and shingles aren't gonna matter, right?"

@ajanionthespot @Jmaurer @Tayatranscendent @SliverQueen "oh wow, yeah, I actually kinda get that. Wonder if that's why the gods are in the clouds."

@ajanionthespot @Jmaurer @Tayatranscendent @SliverQueen "Yeah. Let's focus on that, and deal with the Sheriffs as we find them. Or as they find us, I guess. Firiel will let us know if anyone's talking about us."

@ajanionthespot @DialMforMara @Jmaurer @SliverQueen Tebasha listens intently to the conversation while staring into the distance. “I’m sorry I didn’t reply to what you were asking, I’ve had a lot on my mind. As to exactly what I did, it’s a special type of artifice involving living metal. The metal takes the form of its target and absorbs them and most of their memories. Before the invasion, it was used mostly by criminals and rival groups to spy on their enemies.”

@ajanionthespot @DialMforMara @Jmaurer @SliverQueen “It’s... an evil act to extinguish a living, thinking creature in such a way. During the invasion, the art was shared widely. These Duplicants were very effective at replacing Phyrexian agents with spies for the resistance. That is how I learned of it, but I never had the power or skill needed to wield such a weapon before I sparked”. Tebasha continues staring into the distance, not saying any more.

@Tayatranscendent @ajanionthespot @Jmaurer @SliverQueen

"Wow." Ariel slides down the seat to sit close to Tebasha. ((I'm imagining those long bench seats like on the Hogwarts Express.)) "Can I give you a hug?"

@DialMforMara @ajanionthespot @Jmaurer @SliverQueen ((I’d imagine the best way to describe how Tebasha is feeling right now would be how Ariel would feel to use Dimir magic in the same way))

@Tayatranscendent @DialMforMara @ajanionthespot @SliverQueen ((or if Tarjuk used act of treason for more than just the suggestion trick))

@DialMforMara @Tayatranscendent @ajanionthespot @Jmaurer Once the hug has gone on long enough to interrupt, Venqwyn clears her throat. "Tebasha, that new Sheriff Grant, he's loyal to you, now, yes? The bodies that you're making for the gods ... for Sturmcraw ... will those have the same ties?"

@SliverQueen @Tayatranscendent @ajanionthespot @Jmaurer Ariel lets go and considers the implications of the question. "Won't they want to do whatever the god inside them wants to do? It sounds like the Grant copy didn't have the real Grant inside it."

@SliverQueen @DialMforMara @ajanionthespot @Jmaurer “The Duplicant is a living thing of its own. It’ll take my guidance into account, but will learn and make its own decisions on how to carry out those instructions. I don’t think the gods will have any such boundaries. Firiel inhabits an artificial construct, but it’s still completely her own being”

@Tayatranscendent @SliverQueen @DialMforMara @ajanionthespot and unlike the duplicate of the sherif the gods should enter by choice. Like Firiel did.

@Jmaurer @Tayatranscendent @DialMforMara @ajanionthespot "Can we be sure of that? The Tinfellows seem awfully well controlled. Are we sure we aren't just handing Sturmclaw the gods to serve her alone?"

@SliverQueen @Tayatranscendent @DialMforMara @ajanionthespot the tinfellows are inhabited by small spirits. Elementals. Easily controlled. Like water in a bucket. But a bucket will not control a waterfall, the waterfall will take the bucket.

@SliverQueen @Tayatranscendent @DialMforMara @ajanionthespot also we have to put our trust in someone *sideways glance toward Seth* and if nothing else Sturmclaw has the trust of those we have allied with. We can get a more complete picture if and when we meet this Chaplet woman.

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