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EDHD: It's like Commander, but every fifteen minutes everyone moves one seat to the left, interrupting both your concentration and your strategy

@DialMforMara That sounds ... really fun, actually? Maybe during each untap step, roll an N-sided die (tune for taste), rotate one way if you hit a 1, the other way if you hit N

@SliverQueen @DialMforMara
And one seat is just occupied at all times by a cardboard standup of Aminatou the Fateshifter!

@SliverQueen that would be a neat twist, though I also want to try it the more predictable way

Could we use a planar die?

@SliverQueen can we make the payment of the cost move with the person who cast the spell, as opposed to staying with the side of the board the spell is on?

@SliverQueen If we're doing it randomly, maybe we should use a D20 to start with

@SliverQueen I'm not ready to say "yes, let's do this in the middle of a turn." The beginning of each untap phase is enough for me.

@DialMforMara Oh, true. Basically make it "gain control of adjacent player's battlefield, hand, library, command zone, and graveyard"

@DialMforMara Deffo. Let's float it with Erin tonight, I bet she'll get a kick out of it

@DialMforMara @SliverQueen Hi! I have played something exactly like this before, and it is very fun.
We did it so that we put a timer on 10 minutes, and then when it went off we finished the turn, and then rolled a die to determine how many seats to the left we jumped. When only two players remain you stop and they finish the game in whatever seat they happen to have. If you lose, you do not rotate anymore, since you have lost. You win if you are the last standing player.
Tip: Hide the timer.

@DialMforMara @SliverQueen I am however extremely unsure why you would consider the pacts to be problematic in this format??

@Ice_In_Disguise @SliverQueen Figuring out who's responsible for paying the cost, if they're cast right before a switch

@DialMforMara @SliverQueen The deck that own it?
If I play deck A and cast a pact, and the timer goes off, then we finish the current turn, then switch seats. The player who now plays deck A has to during their next upkeep pay the cost.
How else would it work?

@Ice_In_Disguise @DialMforMara I was seeing the rotation at first as taking over the entire role of the next player, including obligations and life totals. Just board and card state makes it a lot cleaner.

@SliverQueen @Ice_In_Disguise I want the person who cast the spell to be responsible for the aftercost. Though it may be more in the spirit of the game to have to take on that obligation when you take control of that board

@SliverQueen @DialMforMara I played it as you first saw it, you get their life total and everything else. Not saying that is the right way, but it seems simpler? Literally just switch seats and continue playing with another deck.

At Mara's comment: how then would you want to resolve something like Pyromancer's Swath(discard hand every end step - burn spells deal 2 more damage) in a deck with no burn spells? The deck still gets the effect of the pacts, then why does it not have to pay for it?

@Ice_In_Disguise @SliverQueen Maybe it is simpler for all the costs to stay with the deck. It's certainly more in the spirit of EDHD; I'm just concerned it'll go a little *too* far.

@DialMforMara @SliverQueen Do not worry too much! If anything weird/bad/assholey happens, maybe catch it then and there. I never had any such problems myself with my friends.

Players do not want to screw their own decks over too much since they might get back to them, and then they might be losing Big Time, but also they might want to screw a deck that is winning/in the lead because if they can not win before the switch, they might lose to it. I found finding that balance to be part of the fun!

@ajanionthespot We don't have to! We errata it to say "each table segment regains control of the creatures that came from the deck"

OR we errata it to say "everyone goes back to the seat they started it"

or both! @SliverQueen

@ajanionthespot @SliverQueen But it's a good thing to keep in mind, especially since the new Trostani has the same ability

@DialMforMara @ajanionthespot "Owner" may just need to stay with the seat, otherwise "shuffle into its owner's library" gets broken fast.

@SliverQueen @ajanionthespot And "you" will mean "whoever is in this seat at the time the effect resolves"

@DialMforMara @SliverQueen @ajanionthespot It's a lot like the seats/decks each have a fake player which is controlled by a real player (as in Mindslaver) and control of the fake players is occasionally exchanged. Except that the "real players" can't be real players since they don't have decks of their own.

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